TODD RUNDGREN LP RUNT Ampex A10105 EXTRA TRACKS RARE NM

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TODD RUNDGREN

RUNT

U.S. AMPEX A10105

DEADWAX/INNER GROOVE INFO=
A10105-A (A10105 B on B-side (no dash on B-side))
ARC 11-20-70
STERLING
LH
AL
Side A has 7 bands, side B has 5.

Rare Runt

Two distinct versions of TR's debut LP were released. Here's the differences and how to tell if you have a "rare" one.

Etched on the inner groove/deadwax are these markings FOR RARE VERSION (THE ONE I HAVE LISTED HERE IN THIS AUCTION!!!):

A10105-A (A10105 B on B-side (no dash on B-side))
ARC 11-20-70
STERLING
LH
AL
Side A has 7 bands, side B has 5.

Steve Graham adds:

Most of the tracks marked "no difference" actually are different mixes. This is sort of referred to, I believe, in the notes on the inner sleeve of the "official" version, which say: "Remixed at Record Plants in N.Y. and L.A. and RE-REMIXED at Jack Clement Studio in Nashville".

There are several versions of the "official" pressing, some of which might possibly be bootlegs -- those are on really horrid vinyl, were not cut at "Sterling", and have the grooves spaced differently, ending farther away from the label. And there are versions on the Ampex and Bearsville/Ampex labels.

Hank Webb offers an alternate view: As a long time fan of Todd and his body of music, I have amassed a large collection of his material, and in many varying forms. I have had a nagging question about one piece in mind, and were wondering if you could help me clear it up. It concerns the album Runt, and the material therein. Many reference books and supposed authorities conclude that the 12 track master with the song "Hope I'm Around" erroneously on side "a" and "Say No More" etc. on side "b" is the original first pressing. I take issue with that assumption, since 11-20-70 is etched in each trail off on my copy. The copies I have, that are 10 track masters, claimed to be second pressings by many authorities, have a 6-6-70 or 6-8-70 mastering date in the dead wax. That would be a clear indication to me that the 10 track master would be the original release, as they are also very abundant. However what would be the real reason for the mix-up in the later pressings, that contain 11 or 12 tracks? I also have an 11 track copy with a June side "a" and a November side "b" (on the hybrid copy the November date is 11-23-70, and is very clearly that, with the standard June stamper on side a.) Hence "Say No More " is on it, but not "Hope I'm Around". Can you shed any light on this matter for me? Runt - The Difference Comparison Blue Label Differences from normal release Side A Broke Down & Busted (121K AIFC) (363K Wave) (93K Real Audio 3.0 stream Short vocal intro extracted from "There Are No Words".
The rest of the song is the same. Believe In Me No differences We Got To Get You A Woman No differences Once Burned Switched with "Who's That Man?" Who's That Man? Switched with "Once Burned" Hope I'm Around (979K AIFC) (2.8MB Wave) (690K Real Audio 3.0 stream) Alternate version of tune that eventually appeared on "Ballad" Devil's Bite Several different edits, more notes in guitar solo Side B I'm In The Clique No differences There Are No Words No differences Baby Let's Swing (756K AIFC) (2.2MB Wave) (538K Real Audio 3.0 stream) Full version with additional lyrics and without addition of other medley tunes
"The Last Thing You Said/Don't Tie My Hands" Say No More (671K AIFC) (2.5 MB Wave) (503K Real Audio 3.0 stream) Not found on later versions Birthday Carol Noticably different mix

-WITH ORIGINAL TODD RUNDGREN LINER...LOADED WITH PICTURES AND TEXT!!

-VINYL= NM

-JACKET= NM

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• Very Good Plus (VG+)   .
  
  A Very Good Plus record will show some signs that it was played and otherwise handled by a previous owner who took good care of it.
  
  Record surfaces may show some signs of wear and may have slight scuffs or very light scratches that don't affect one's listening experiences. Slight warps that do not affect the sound are "OK".
  
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  In general, if not for a couple things wrong with it, this would be Near Mint. All but the most mint-crazy collectors will find a Very Good Plus record highly acceptable.



• Very Good (VG)    Many of the defects found in a VG+ record will be more pronounced in a VG disc. Surface noise will be evident upon playing, especially in soft passages and during a song's intro and fade, but will not overpower the music otherwise. Groove wear will start to be noticeable, as with light scratches (deep enough to feel with a fingernail) that will affect the sound.
  
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• Good (G), Good Plus (G+)   Good does not mean Bad! A record in Good or Good Plus condition can be put onto a turntable and will play through without skipping. But it will have significant surface noise and scratches and visible groove wear (on a styrene record, the groove will be starting to turn white).
  
  A cover or sleeve will have seam splits, especially at the bottom or on the spine. Tape, writing, ring wear or other defects will start to overwhelm the object.
  
  It is a common item, you'll probably find another copy in better shape eventually. Pass it up. But, if it's something you have been seeking for years, and the price is right, get it...but keep looking to upgrade.



• Poor (P), Fair (F)   Generally worth 0-5 percent of the Near Mint price. The record is cracked, badly warped, and won't play through without skipping or repeating. The picture sleeve is water damaged, split on all three seams and heavily marred by wear and writing. The LP cover barely keeps the LP inside it. Inner sleeves are fully seam split, crinkled, and written upon.

 

 

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