ROLLING STONES "ALL THEM WOMEN" (SOME GIRLS REHEARSALS VOL. 3) RARE LP NOT-TMOQ
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Apr 14, 2023 Sold Date
Apr 7, 2023 Start Date
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ROLLING STONES "ALL THEM WOMEN" (SOME GIRLS REHEARSALS VOL. 3)

THE ROLLING STONES "ALL THEM WOMEN" (SOME GIRLS REHEARSALS VOL. 3) LABEL: WHOM/RARING RECORDS  WHOM-SGR-3 RELEASED: CIRCA 1982/1983   RECORDED: 1977-1978 EMI Pathe-Marconi Studios ~ PARIS MATRIX (SIDE A):Whom-SGR-3A MATRIX (SIDE B):Whom-SGR-3B
CONDITION: VINYL: VG++ to EX-      SLIP INSERT: EX         GENERIC JACKET: VG
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I've been going thru my massive vinyl record collection these past few weeks and pulling out some LPs that I thought that someone else would want for their collection. I've been collecting records for over 40 years and it's time to pass some of them on to the next generation of collectors.
This week on EBay I am offering up this fantastic, clean copy of the great Rolling Stones 'collector' record "All Them Women" on the Whom/Raring label. 
This is a clean, crisp copy that I purchased back in the early 80's. I've taken great care of it for many years. 
~~~~~~~~~~~~ This version has a slip-sheet paper insert cover. It has the 'Whom Records' name on the insert, but the 'Raring Records' name on the actual labels.
The Goldenrod Yellow slip cover has a picture of Keith holding up a Chuck Berry poster outside of a Chuck Berry gig he attended. Not sure if that's from the legendary night Chuck punched Keith in the face for touching his guitar backstage.
The slip sheet lists the tracks and the timings. It also lists the other Whom records in this 3-LP series; "Spend It So Fast" and "Some Other Girls" that contained other 'Some Girls' sessions.
This is labeled with green Raring Records labels, but was pressed from the same original Whom metal plates. Same Matrix numbers and same sound quality, which is slightly muffled, but not bad at all.
From my research, the original plain white jackets for this release had red Rubber Stamped covers AND the slip sheet added. Rubber stamped front and slip sheet in the rear. This copy does NOT have a rubber stamped jacket, just blank.
I purchased this 'used' and 'as is" in around 1982/83. I suspect the Record shop owner switched this out and put this in an older, beat up, white jacket to make it look older than it was. 
This was a brand new release, fresh to the market, when I purchased it, but it caught my attention because it looked much older and 'vintage' due to it's slightly distressed jacket.
I can only assume it was 'switched out' to deceive the shopper. It sure caught me.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In early January 1978, the Stones went into EMI-Pathé Marconi Studios, near Paris, France. They did some sessions the previous Fall, but they spent the Spring of 1978 in Paris, completing recording sessions for 'Some Girls'
There was a prolific amount of output from the Pathe Marconi recording studios around this time. I can remember many tapes popping up in the Spring of '78 with early versions of the songs they were working on. An exciting time as a Stones collector! I can clearly remember hearing this material for the first time back then and went looking for some of it on 'Collector' records.
These Paris sessions were mined by the Stones for quite a few years afterwords, with finished songs popping up on 'Some Girls', 'Emotional Rescue' and even later albums.
~~~~ This album is made up of outtakes and sessions for the 'Some Girls' album. Most all of the songs on this album were recorded during sessions at the EMI Pathe-Marconi Studios in Paris, during the Fall/Winter of 1977/78.
This hard to find 'Collector' LP has the Stones rehearsing six songs, some of which, in final form, ended up on their superb 'Some Girls' album released in June 1978.
These recordings are from the Soundoard/Mixing Console and sound quite good. Not perfect, somewhat flat and distant, but also not the typical poor sounding, audience recorded material often found on these 'Collector' records.
As a Stones fan and collector, it's interesting to hear how classic gems like "Shattered," "Respectable," "When the Whip Comes Down," and "Lies" sounded as early rough songs before Mick Jagger and the boys polished them up and released them. These are loose, rough, and garage-y sounding sessions.  Terrific!
According to my research and accumulated collector knowledge, "Respectable', 'When The Whip Comes Down' and 'Lies' were recorded in October 1977 at Pathé Marconi Studios. Some of the first songs laid down on tape for the new album.
The version of "When the Whip Comes Down" on this LP runs nearly 10 minutes and is a great raw jam. 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This album is very 'Keith' oriented. The song "I Can't Help It" is a keith outtake, written and sung by him. He's prominent on backing vocals on the other songs as well.
~~~~~~~~~~~~ The opening track, "Rotten Roll" is a long 11 minute Keith riff, in his classic Open G tuning, from the sessions in March 1978.
It's basically the riff that would eventually become "Before They Make Me Run." It's his response to his arrest for heroin possession in Toronto in February 1977. 
Keith faced the very real possibility of going to prison for a long time when he wrote this. He was arrested for 'intent to distribute' due to the massive amount of Heroin he was found with. The authoirities refused to believe him when he claimed it was just his private personal stash, just for the weekend.
The story of the recording of this song is the stuff of legends. Keith famously recorded the song over a five day straight binge session.
Mick wasn't around, and the rest of the band had bailed after a day or two. Keith had 2 different recording engineers, who switched out recording and napping under the console, over the  5 long days and nights.
The early version on this record is just a long jam, no lyrics, with guitar, bass and drums.
The final mix of the song on the album has Keith on Vocals, guitars and bass, with Ronnie's Pedal Steel and guitar, and Charlie's drums added on, but this is just Keith riffing. Mick had very little to do with this song, but he is on the final track's backing vocals and gets writing credit.
This is one of my favorite 'Keith' songs. He was potentially headed off to jail, and looking back on his friends, good times and vices. It was his 'goodbye' to his flamboyant life style, sung in a raw, personal, urgent style. 
In Keith's great book "Life" he claims that this song "was a cry from the heart. I was in the studio, without leaving, for five days.." 
Keith eventually was charged with possession only, forced to do a free concert for CNIB, and continue detox treatment. He was finally free and able to finish the 'Some Girls' album, insisting this song be included.
Afterwards, Keith famously stated: "I've never had a problem with drugs, (only) problems with the police." and "If you're going to kick authority in the teeth, you might as well use two feet."
The song wasn't performed on the 'Some Girls' tour, and wasn't included in Stones concerts until many years later. I was fortunate to see Keith on his 'New Barbarians' tour in 1979 and he did a great, emotional, heartfelt version of 'Before They Make me Run.' Fantastic.
It's gone on to be a classic, well-loved Keith song.
~~~~~~~~~~~ The tracks on this record are listed below. Some of these songs are known by collectors under various titles. I put the name of the song as it appears on the album, followed by other titles it's known as. The times are from the cover slip.
Rotten Roll (Munich Hilton)  10:59 Respectable  4:00 Lies  4:15 When The Whip Comes Down  10:07 I Can't Help It (I Love You Too Much)  4:25 Shattered  3:45
~~~~~~~~~~~~ While these sessions were happening in Paris, there was a lot of other activity revolving around the band. 1978 was a transitional period for the band, and the Stones career can clearly be broken into 'before' and 'after' these 'Some Girls' sessions.
By early 1978, Keith's 1977 Toronto Drug Bust was finally coming to a head. He was still going thru a rough Heroin Detox period with his 'Black Box' treatments. During his unscheduled 'stay' in Toronto, Keith dove deep into vintage acoustic American Country tunes, like Hank and Jerry Lee, and many of those were experimented with during the '78 Paris sessions.
During these sessions, in the same studio, Ron Wood was recording his great 'Gimmie Some Neck' album, which included appearances by Keith, Mick, and Charlie on some tracks.
In May, Mick and Keith took a break from session work and flew to Woodstock, NY to produce and contribute to Peter Tosh's album 'Bush Doctor' at Bearsville Studios. Mick duets with Peter Tosh on 'Don't Look Back' and 'Legalize It.'
The boys also took a side trip to Compass Point Studios in Nassau, Bahamas, for some session work during this time.
There were a lot of changes in the band's personal lives and marriages during this period as well. Mick was finalizing his separation from Bianca and hanging out with Jerry Hall; Keith, trying to clean up, was separating himself from Anita's influence after 11 years; Ronnie was also separating from his wife  Chrissy. 
Charlie was trying to stay out of the way of all this by hanging out, soaking up, and playing gigs with some European Jazz greats.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ CONDITION:  I tried to show good hi-resolution photos of the cover, labels and vinyl in my pictures.
I purchased this copy 'used' in the early 80s, nearly 40 years ago, in Greenwich Village, on one of my 'regular' stops while crate digging in those days, and have taken great care of it since. Those were the days when there were a dozen record stores on St Mark's Place in the East Village and these type of records were cheap and everywhere. 
VINYL: The vinyl looks great. Clean and Bright. There are a couple very light, inaudible hairlines, but nothing serious. No scuffs, scrapes or scratches. It's 40 years old and would benefit from a good cleaning, but looks fine.
The only 'flaw' is that the vinyl isn't very high quality and the pressing itself isn't very high quality. That's sometimes how things were in the 80s on these 'collector' records. This isn't Audiophile stuff! The grooves aren't pressed as well as a 'commercial' record and I had to adjust my tracking angle and tonearm weight to get it to track properly. I have a very sensitive high-end cartridge and stylus. Your mileage may vary.
I showed some close-up pictures of the vinyl to show how nice it looks. It's been in an old-school poly lined sleeve since I purchased it.
I'm sure you'll be happy with it.
LABELS: This is pressed on simple bright green Raring Records labels. No mention of the artist, title or track listing. That's also how things were with 'collector' records in the 80s. The labels are clean and bright. No marks or damage. The spindle holes are still sharp and clean, suggesting minimal playing and my careful handling.
INSERT SLIP SLEEVE: The yellow paper slip insert is in perfect condition. Bright, clean and with sharp corners. No marks, writing or damage.
JACKET: The Jacket, as mentioned above, is an old plain white standard thick jacket. This is NOT rubber stamped like some copies. The front side has some age-related wear and looks 'Vintage'. The back side has some staining and discoloration. I showed photos of both sides. Just an old white jacket. Solid, no seam splits, sharp corners, just stained on the back and old looking.
This has been sleeved and stored properly for years. The vinyl and slip sleeve are still fantastic, just a wonky plain white jacket. 
I meant to switch this jacket out with a new blank white jacket, decades ago, to keep in my collection, but never got around to it. Now, 40 years later, it's time to pass it on.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ** NOTE: I'm selling this rare 'Collector' record "AS IS" and "NO RETURN". It's rare and as described and I'm sure you'll be very happy with it.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Add this fantastic Rolling Stones 'Collector' album to your collection today. It would make a great addition to any Classic Rock or Stones vinyl record collection. If you like 'Some Girls', you'll love this.
~~~~~~~ I’m recently retired and downsizing and letting go some gems and rarities from nearly 45 years of vinyl record collecting. Check out the many other fantastic 45s and 33s coming soon to my page!
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