THUNDERBIRDS -rare 1965 garage LP great M-
  $   660

 


$ 660 Sold For
Oct 22, 2003 Sold Date
Oct 12, 2003 Start Date
$   10 Start price
35   Number Of Bids
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"MEET THE FABULOUS THUNDERBIRDS" IS A RAW AND DRIVING RECORD FROM 1965 BY FOUR HIGH SCHOOL KIDS FROM NEW MEXICO

The Thunderbirds - "Meet the Fabulous Thunderbirds", mono, on Red Feather 1. Legend has it that Jimmie Vaughn chose the name for his band, The Fabulous Thunderbirds, from a very obscure album he had come across in his youth. I would have to assume that this it. Anyway, these Thunderbirds are comprised of Ricky Abeita, lead guitar, vocal and band leader; Willam Carl Johnson - rhythm guitar and vocal; Mike Jiron, bass; and Herman Lucero, drums. All were between the ages of 15 and 17 when this album was cut. Here's what the liner notes say about them:

"HERE THEY ARE..the four American Indian boys who have combined their talents to form one of the country's most interesting and exciting rock 'n' roll groups..called THE THUNDERBIRDS.. Red Feather Records takes great pride in presenting this new and unusual group..We know you will enjoy this album and hope you agree that these..the first Americans..are well on their way to becoming first in American..in rock 'n' roll music."

The Thunderbirds were from the Isleta Pueblo village, 13 miles from Albuqueque. Their style falls square in the middle of 60's garage and punk rock. Their version of Route 66 isn't what you might think, shortly into the song it morphs into a Chuck Berry-styled rock 'n' roller. Berry was a big influence on them with a primitive version of Roll Over Beethoven and a Reelin 'n' Rockin, which is loosely based on the Berry original. "Hot Pastrome" actually starts out as Mashed Potatoes in a medium groove and then revs up into Hot Pastrami. Isleta is a cool instrumental. Let's Dance kicks off side 2 and rocks hard, every bit as good if not better than the original. Shedding Teardrops Over You has that swamp rock ballad style in the vein of Freddy Fender's Wasted Days. Just Let me Know is a New Orleans styled r&b rocker, influenced by songs like Fats Domino's Please Don't Leave Me. Fine album, fun album, extremely rare, a great addition to your collection.

Record Grade: Mint-, full gloss, a few hairlines which don't effect play

Cover Grade: Mint-; great group photo, glossy cover has very minor wear, name written in small letters on back cover

Label: Gorgeous red, white and black labels are flawless

Song Titles:

  • Route 66
  • Laguna
  • Shake it Up Baby (Twist and Shout)
  • Chains
  • Mexican Joe
  • Hot Pastrome
  • Let's Dance
  • Glad All Over
  • Roll Over Beethoven
  • Shedding Teardrops Over You
  • Just Let Me Know
  • Reelin 'n' Rockin'
  • Isleta

    MY GRADING SYSTEMS: I’ve been told that I grade conservatively. My NM (near mint) is my highest grade for opened records (which would also include unplayed records). It’s a 9 or 10 on a 1-10 scale. M- would be equivalent to an 8; VG++ to a 7; VG+ to a 6; VG to a 5; VG- to a 4; G to a 3; F to a 2 and P to a 1. The same scale applies when I grade covers (jackets). Significant defects are specifically noted and taken into consideration in the grade.

    GRADING DESCRIPTIONS


    RECORDS:
    • GRADING Grading is based on the following criteria
    • Sealed = store stock new
    • Near Mint = like new or near new with only one or two small insignificant defects, a 9 or better on a 1-10 scale
    • Mint- = extremely nice. Would be Near Mint, except for a couple of light hairlines or scuffs, which do not affect play
    • VG++ = still a very nice record with all or nearly all of its original gloss but may have a few more light, surface marks, hairlines, needle tracks or the like which should not materially effect play
    • VG+ = a nice, but used record that may have a series of light scuffs or scratches. It probably plays with a few pops, but has no serious problems.
    • VG = a well-used record that still should sound OK when played, but may have moderate surface noise, pops, etc.
    • VG- = a very well-worn record that plays through without skipping, but will do until a better copy comes along.
    • Good = not actually good at all but probably will play through but with much in the way of surface noise, pops, crackles, etc. Still, will have no cracks, chips or the like
    • Fair = you’re getting this record just to own but not to play
    • Poor = the sky’s the limit, generally I will discard a record this bad (and sell the cover, jacket or sleeve alone) unless the label holds some particular interest

      font color = red> VISUAL GRADING: All records are visually graded only unless I state that they are play-graded. Some labels such as RCA, Capitol, Colpix, Atlantic, MGM were pressed on better quality vinyl and will sound better than a record which visually appears the same on labels such as Crown, Score or Design. Recording techniques also varied. The sound on live albums may be far inferior to studio recordings. There may also be defects in the pressing which are invisible. The point is that an album on RCA graded VG+ may sound far better than an album on Crown graded Near Mint. I have no problem issuing a refund if you are dissatisfied with the sound on a record as long as it’s requested as per my stated return policy below. But please don’t be shocked if a record visually graded Near Mint doesn’t sound state of the art. If I base my grade on a PLAY GRADE, I will state this specifically in my grading section.

      COVERS: There are really too many possible defects regarding covers to be as specific in my definitions as I had been with my record grades. But please keep in mind these general grading guidelines:

      • I will give greater weight to the condition of the front cover than back cover when assigning an overall grade
      • No cover with a cut out hole or saw mark will be graded Near Mint even if it is still in factory shrink and there is no other wear
      • I will not reduce the grade of a cover for stickers which are glued to the jacket by the record company (eg. Contains the hit song Funky Monkey); but will reduce the grade for stickers glued on the cover by stores, previous owners, etc.
      • If I write that a cover has a bb hole, I’m talking about a small cut out hole
      • A saw mark is a narrow cut in the perimeter of the cover, could be anywhere and vary in length from 1/2” to 2” at the most.
      • The overall grade takes into consideration any stated defects. For example, if I grade a cover VG+ and then state it has 6” top and bottom seam splits - I’ve already reduced the grade because of the seam splits. If the seams weren’t split, the cover would be graded higher such as VG++ or Mint-.

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        On Oct-12-03 at 16:30:54 PDT, seller added the following information:

        CORRECTION - THIS ALBUM IS IN STEREO , NOT MONO

        On Oct-13-03 at 00:58:51 PDT, seller added the following information:

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